tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post2761370583131169180..comments2023-10-10T03:39:31.034-05:00Comments on DREGstudios! The Artwork of Brandt Hardin: The Pulpit in the Classroom: A Biblical Agenda in TennesseeDREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-47939619129068982222014-02-07T11:20:19.972-06:002014-02-07T11:20:19.972-06:00Christianity as a whole certainly thrives on the d...Christianity as a whole certainly thrives on the denial of mortality- replacing the fear of death with the fear of sin and promise of immortality. Preparation for death can be taught in the correct way like with Buddhism. Meditation is "death training" essentially and helps one find peace here on Earth in its practice as well which is a stark contrast to the hate-mongering much of the Bible-thumping sect generate.DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-39358062430955011532014-02-06T14:00:15.727-06:002014-02-06T14:00:15.727-06:00Jared, you sound insane.
Elrond HubbardJared, you sound insane.<br /><br />Elrond HubbardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-61798080497074589022014-02-06T13:59:16.137-06:002014-02-06T13:59:16.137-06:00Regardless, no one in any research of any type eve...Regardless, no one in any research of any type ever has found the word 'bible' or 'jehova' inside a rock, or encoded in the dna, etc. If there is design, maybe its Allah or Ahura Mazda. Just give up trying to give credibility to your fantasy. You don't have to be an atheist, just stop saying what's in some book from the bronze or whatever age it was is incontrovertible fact, its utterly ridiculous - just stop, we are tired of listening to nonsense to server your inability to face death without uncontrollable fear that you've got to subvert by lying to yourself.<br /><br />good luck,<br />Elrond HubbardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-50897845117190396422013-12-06T23:19:47.872-06:002013-12-06T23:19:47.872-06:00It's not my religion I have a problem with oth...It's not my religion I have a problem with others challenging but rather science. Science is factual and most faith is, well... blind faith. DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-84863092519019621402013-12-06T22:54:02.761-06:002013-12-06T22:54:02.761-06:00I get a kick out of you evolutionists, sooooo scar...I get a kick out of you evolutionists, sooooo scared that kids hear other's religious theories, or evidence that challenges your religion. You really are closer minded. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-43465609894967838382013-10-05T17:04:10.164-05:002013-10-05T17:04:10.164-05:00What is the hard evidence/proof that life originat...What is the hard evidence/proof that life originated naturalistically? There is powerful appearance of design/engineering/programming/complexity in the simplest cell on earth. We can't bring about life in the lab, even the simplest self-replicating. There is too much complexity required for the first life and no natural process to explain it. What if it is through the agency of an intelligence? Evolved or Alien or Supernatural?But a higher intelligence? Since the vast majority of Origin of life scientists have ruled out "mere chance" as the cause of abiogenesis, which is the foundation and beginning of evolution, what else is there naturally besides chance and chance has been ruled out! Well there is then the "unknown process/mechanism" that they are now looking for, and cannot find. So it would be a logical fallacy to rule out a source of intelligence, which can be discerned by a set of criteria just like we use it for SETI and archaeology. And if we rule out intelligence without knowing what that unknown factor is, it is foundational bias. You may say - there is no evidence for design - but even Dawkins admits "POWERFUL illusion of Design" so that proves right there that we have appearance and he does not have any reason to rule out Design in origin of life as he said: "No one knows how it happened...it's not a trivial problem...that's one of our gaps at the moment". If science is truly objective and not biased, intelligent design will be eventually accepted as a viable model for Origin of Life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07905058811123225422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-45466079037291226662013-03-14T11:02:15.784-05:002013-03-14T11:02:15.784-05:00I hope you are wrong but I'm fear for the same...I hope you are wrong but I'm fear for the same. There are two sides to the South right now... the general progressive attitude of the public and the extreme legislation being shoved through by elected officials of the FAR Right. DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-20140963288750265992013-03-13T21:24:25.960-05:002013-03-13T21:24:25.960-05:00Followed this from your link in the comment sectio...Followed this from your link in the comment sections of the Star Telegram to a letter that I wrote in regards to creationism. <br /><br />This is a good blog. Keep it handy because I fear that it is still going to be relevant 20 years from now. Sigh. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-44623458579553535672013-03-02T19:34:24.890-06:002013-03-02T19:34:24.890-06:00Rick, this is simply wonderful. Thanks for sharin...Rick, this is simply wonderful. Thanks for sharing- I've gotten about the same response from my few attempts at contacting the Good Governor myself. DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-81544553217840714802013-03-01T11:01:35.752-06:002013-03-01T11:01:35.752-06:00Hi Folks,
Here is the text of a letter I sent to ...Hi Folks,<br /><br />Here is the text of a letter I sent to your Governor when I heard about "you know what." Now I feel bad about it, because I see that y'all are suffering as well.<br /><br />"Dear Governor Haslam, <br /> <br />It has come to my attention that you are going to allow a bill that protects teachers who let children criticize evolution or global warming in classrooms become law. I want to thank you for this, as those of us in Ohio are tired of being ridiculed as ignorant, and I appreciate your efforts to have your state share the spotlight.<br /> <br />It makes perfect sense to have high school students use their massive experience in scientific methods to correct those silly teachers with their dumb "theories." Better yet, we should get to vote on what science is true, now that would be true democracy in action.<br /> <br />It occurs to me that there isn't an I.Q. test required to become a State Governor, is there? Science and education may be overrated anyway.<br /> <br />Thanks again,<br /> <br />Rick<br /> <br />Note: I was unable to use the internal messaging system on your website, it threw an error which I forwarded to your help department. Perhaps some H.S. students could come over and straighten out your servers.."<br /><br />His office sent a little form letter praising me for getting involved in the process of Government, and saying that he would send my letter to Legal to get ideas for useful new legislation.<br /><br />My condolences fellows.<br /><br />Rick..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-21613271470763091962013-02-07T10:19:18.914-06:002013-02-07T10:19:18.914-06:00Life here on earth has been a petri dish for "...Life here on earth has been a petri dish for "cosmic farmers" and they made us call them "God". It was they who built the genetic code so life could be manipulated easily. Think about it, what reason would random nature have to construct a code so as to have an impact on future generations. WTF does randomness care about the future? THING ABOUT IT MORONS OF THE EARTH. Nature had no need for any codes. Nature is not conscious or intelligent enough to think about codes. <br /><br />But it is better for the evolutionists to let free discussion go on in classrooms rather than banning ID. Reason is banning is always bad from a scientific standpoint, even if the opposition is weak. You kill them with overwhelming proof. Banning only gives the impression you fear their argument. Which of course they do, because if an intelligent ID guy comes along he can cause major damage.<br /><br />But beyond that, open discussion can get the conversation going in the right direction, that intelligence constructed the genetic code for purpose, and we should take that up as a legitimate theory, otherwise we're living a totally deluded life. <br /><br />I'm not comfortable with how much banning and intimidating science has to do these days. And how peoples careers are ruined because their ideas are not mainstream sciences ideas. That is really not what science is all about, stifling strange ideas. Most ideas started out pretty strange. I am working on a few right now which you would probably have me committed for. <br /><br />WAKE UP BOZO, there are other people out here. <br /><br />My name is Joe Ford, but I am going to sign as anonymous because I don't have any of those other account things, I don't think. Probably do but too lazy to look up the passwords. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-90725188506436092272012-11-21T09:38:36.684-06:002012-11-21T09:38:36.684-06:00Creationism/ID is based on blind-faith. Blind-fait...Creationism/ID is based on blind-faith. Blind-faith is dependent upon free-will wielding devotees and cannot ever stand up to the rigors of scientism. Further, science needs no such human input...it happens with or without humans being present.I would be inclined to trust that life here on Earth has been a petri dish for "cosmic farmers" sowing and collecting DNA, than the infant drivel spewing from blind-faith wielding religious yahoos! <br /><br />Keep up the great work Brandt and thanks for sharing a good article. Sorry for the Tn. kids who have to be contaminated by "Monkey-brained" mentalities and free-will stifling dogma. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-53693404058570326882012-11-14T13:15:43.901-06:002012-11-14T13:15:43.901-06:00Thanks for the scientific input! Thanks for the scientific input! DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-62569857558948049432012-11-14T13:14:58.212-06:002012-11-14T13:14:58.212-06:00READING is POWERREADING is POWERDREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-83890817191496313522012-11-14T13:14:14.844-06:002012-11-14T13:14:14.844-06:00Graham, if we spent the same amount of money on Ed...Graham, if we spent the same amount of money on Education as we do on our Military Budget, every student in America would indeed be in an armchair... something very chic at that I'm certain. Thanks for the comment- I agree 100%. Children should be allotted the freedom to debate but not in this obvious manner of "pushing" them in one direction or the other. DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-56372210185927104792012-11-14T10:20:25.641-06:002012-11-14T10:20:25.641-06:00The origin of the bacterial flagellum is indeed te...The origin of the bacterial flagellum is indeed testable because it makes predictions whose consequences can be tested especially in this day of molecular biology. No one (who's a biologist) expects something like flagella arose via natural selection or drift; prokaryotes have even more ways to evolve. The proteins involved in the construction of a flagellum should be found in common ancestors with different functions. Things like this are being tested all the time to see if they fit hypotheses. So Joe G.'s claim that such things cannot be tested is quite false.The Phytophactorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064894836161407416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-49573505555869649692012-10-24T14:20:22.680-05:002012-10-24T14:20:22.680-05:00Great article.
I was wondering what the big move ...Great article.<br /><br />I was wondering what the big move for the creationism/ID movement would be since Kitzmiller v. Dover, and not surprisingly it's pretty much the same thing all over again.<br /><br />This notion that 'we should let the children decide' has been contentious, to say the least, even before the Intelligent Design label was adopted. <br />I understand the 'logic' behind it, and I like the idea of encouraging skepticism and doubt within growing minds, but that's clearly not what's been proposed. The first and foremost goal in any classroom is to teach the children; to supply them with the knowledge relevant to their current level of understanding and help them in understanding it.<br />By suggesting they 'challenge' scientific theory is an invitation for armchair objections in a very literal sense (well almost, I'm British and we never had armchairs on school seats, but maybe that's a luxury you get).<br /><br />If you absolutely had to have a debate about evolution and creationism in a class room, then first of all it should not be in a science lesson. As you pointed out sadly philosophy or even sociology are not compulsory in most schools, but if they were all we'd be seeing are unmoderated debates by a teacher who is in favour with the indoctrinated children and against the minority of students who have parents supplying them with actual science. <br />If they must have a debate, why not bring in a guest speaker (a University professor or if they're lucky enough a scientist) to clarify any misconceptions or rebutt any refutations. Would be a decent way to learn, I think.<br /><br />But fundamentally (if you excuse the pun), this is not an issue of arguing creationism with evolution. It's christianity wanting its place not just in Science lessons but in every classroom. I doubt that any Hindu or Sikh ideas of creation will be brought up, despite being much older and completely different.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14299195910750009600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-22118193571017682162012-10-18T14:26:44.152-05:002012-10-18T14:26:44.152-05:00@ Joe G
The argument you cite, that rotating flag...@ Joe G<br /><br />The argument you cite, that rotating flagella are too complex to have evolved, is called "irreducible complexity" and has been thoroughly discredited.<br /><br />http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html<br /><br />http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District/4:Whether_ID_Is_Science#Page_79_of_139<br /><br />Perhaps before you attack the "grand claims" of evolution, you should learn a little more about it?<br /><br />Rather than attempting to discredit the millions of PhD scientists from all over the world who, for over 15 decades, have devoted their lives to study of the matter, perhaps you should speak to one of them. PhD researchers are not as dumb as fundamentalists make them out to be. <br /><br />Or you could just go back to a fundamentalist propaganda website and pick up another argument. It's the only place you will find them - note that there are NO scientists I am aware of who argue against evolution on scientific grounds, and the very few who do have fundamental religious convictions. That's a very telling fact.<br /><br />Homework: look up "scientific consensus" and "the scientific method". Before you enter a battle of wits with doctorates, you might want to arm yourself with some serious mental ammunition.<br /><br />Of course, if you actually do the amount of study on the subject that they do, you will no longer refute it - you will understand it.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-75987935698075414192012-10-08T18:20:01.803-05:002012-10-08T18:20:01.803-05:00Abroad Anonymous, you certainly have a good point....Abroad Anonymous, you certainly have a good point. Groups defending Biblical ideals are promoting this social discourse throughout our country. Now there is a Creationism Museum being erected in Kentucky (just north of us here in Tennessee.) What could be on display in such a venue? You're guess is as good as mine but certainly the content will not be based of fact but rather on the mythology of current religion. DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-69593792929565708842012-10-07T16:58:45.526-05:002012-10-07T16:58:45.526-05:00I love your suggestion that there is, perhaps, an ...I love your suggestion that there is, perhaps, an appropriate forum for the discussion of "the controversy." It's very clear to anyone who's not deluded that there's no SCIENTIFIC controversy to be discussed so obviously science teachers shouldn't be wasting their precious time on ID, or whatever alias creationism is currently going under, any more than they should waste time teaching historically-popular notions regarding, say, what's at the centre of the universe, what shape the Earth is, the mechanisms of transmission of infectious diseases, etc.<br />BUT, it's equally clear that there is a SOCIAL controversy that is very worthy of attention and analysis. As an interested observer from outside the U.S. (did the way I spelled "centre" give it away?) I'm fascinated by the phenomenon of creationism-touted-as-science continuing to be something that is taken seriously by your nation. In the rest of the 'western world' this is just a complete non-issue. Sure, even here in solidly secular New Zealand, there'll always be a minority of reality-challenged folk who personally cleave to their favoured mythologies but we've pretty generally accepted the idea that publicly-funded science education should be based on the teaching of the current scientific consensus; after all, the subject is "science" not "science plus a bit of mythology thrown in as a sop to people who don't like the conclusions reached by the overwhelming majority of people actually engaged in doing science."<br />So, by all means teach the controversy but recognize what type of controversy it is - not a scientific one but rather a social, or, as you suggest, a philosophical one. In the absence of school-level philosophy as a subject, what other subject is the rightful place for this discussion? (Here, we've got a subject called 'Social Studies' which would be the natural candidate. I don't really know what it is but I've heard of something called 'Civics' in the U.S. - is that a good place to teach the controversy?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-39162182152633344402012-10-05T19:23:16.913-05:002012-10-05T19:23:16.913-05:00CS, thanks for the input. I don't think these...CS, thanks for the input. I don't think these things happen from a lack of voting. I know I vote here in TN as do many people. The problem is the religious indoctrination which polarizes politics creating Red States such as Tennessee. We find many of our neighbors voting based on overdrawn and endless issues such as gay marriage and abortion while the Republican sect runs a muck creating dangerous crackpot laws which are heavily influenced by the church. We aren't called the "Bible Belt" for nothing!DREGstudios! The Art of Brandt Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487753692973257991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-23974319449356665812012-10-05T19:04:10.853-05:002012-10-05T19:04:10.853-05:00The reason that the politicians are considering a ...The reason that the politicians are considering a law that allows the teaching of creationism in school is not because the people of Tennessee are stupid - the obvious conclusion of outsiders. But it's because all those intelligent Tennesseans don't vote. By not voting and not involving themselves in local politics, they allow less than average IQ politicians to be elected. Your vote is our best defense against ignorance. CS Blankenshipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-47766025122295483352012-09-30T15:52:25.928-05:002012-09-30T15:52:25.928-05:00I absolutely agree with you. These 'god dunit&...I absolutely agree with you. These 'god dunit' creaturds have tried to lift their nonsense by introducing words that they think will elevate it, but it is still pure nonsense, not a real scientific theory at all, as you pointed out in your link. From calling it Creation 'Science' to 'Intelligent Design' to obscure the fact that they think ultimately their Xian god was the creator, or...uh designer, and their use of 'Intelligent' is supposed to reflect that..well.. some intelligence above humans had a hand in life progressing as after they started it, which is all pure unadulterated horse hockey. Thanks for bringing up this point about what constitutes a real 'theory.' Now, if only shouting over these creaturds would prevent their despoiling the basics of human knowledge. I hate to comment as Anonymous, but it's just easier at this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-29769477187162569502012-09-30T15:36:07.880-05:002012-09-30T15:36:07.880-05:00You're wasting your time Brandt and here's...You're wasting your time Brandt and here's why. Republicans(the majority of which are creationists and bible bangers) under the influence of the Religious Right(which is why so much is being done to push religion, their narrow sectarian view, into everything) like to project themselves onto others what they themselves are guilty of, and Carl Sagan said it best:"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." AND especially this: "You can't convince a believer of anything: for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."-Carl Sagan<br />I hate to provide quotes of what others say(a creationists tactic, as they love authorities)but I'm for reality and truth above any ridiculous god and my believing evolution is not another god as creationists like to claim. I was wondering just how many comments down the absurdieites wouyld start and it was sooner than I thought. potholer54 of youtube mentioned just how many hours it takes to debunk the lies creationists tell, and it's truly considerably long, unfortunately, w2hich BTW, the creationists will just gloss over and real evidence against them, ever looking for that smidgin of something they can attack. Wow, religious belief systems are etched in concrete it seems, but they are like the people in a darken cave shouting to give themselves courage as they think they're combatting it, but the cave remains dark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-113810428079736580.post-15871167068891135352012-09-30T15:20:37.651-05:002012-09-30T15:20:37.651-05:00I can see why you'd comment as Anonymous as I ...I can see why you'd comment as Anonymous as I wouldn't want it known to be so ignorant as to think an invisble man in the sky 'made us all.' That is not science it's primitive 'everything is a god' thinking of early unknowing peoples. I was not there to see you being born, but holy hell here you blinking are, and I'm quite sure I can rely on science to explain it, whereas you would rely on the stork theory. I was born into Xianity and it's the worst that happened to me,as I had to unlearn the nonsense of Xian doctrine, as the Pentecostal orphanage thought they knew best and beating me gave them their authority as they were adults and I was a kid bullied into accepting their lies. My atheism is not a reaction though, it's a well thought out position. You need to reread Brandt as well as Steve Novella's article about creationists NON-response to Bill Nye's video. Call me closed minded, I don't care, reality and truth is what I'm closed minded about&anything less is irrational mythology god believing nonsense. BTW, creationism is an assertion as there is no body of knowledge about creationism other than the Wholly Babble, which does not make it a viable 'theory'and after 150 years of research Evolution has yet to be refuted or have anyone come up with anything better through the peer review process, which creationists refuse to engage in. Bible bangers have said if reality contradicts the bible, go with the bible, and that is the creationism you want espoused to innocent kids who see classrooms as knowing what's going on in the world. It's sick. <br />I have to reply unfortunately as...Anonymous, only cuz' couldn't do it another way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com